limiting council per player

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Spyder
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Re: limiting council per player

Postby Spyder » Wed May 22, 2019 7:51 am

Cosmo wrote: Thus just because a group of you don't like it, doesn't mean you're somehow righteous in your collective wrongdoings.


Someone get me a neck-brace the irony has given me whiplash.

hyzael
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Re: limiting council per player

Postby hyzael » Wed May 22, 2019 11:57 am

I got in trouble for suggesting that Tear ally with clans that I have clanned members in. I think it just needs to be clarified once and for all as to how we should approach things. I think having 1 council member per side is how it should be. If it's truely an admin role then anyone ranks 1-5 should be be allowed to manage it realistically if they're deemed trustworthy and active so ther'es no argument for "oh we have not enough players now" no.. you have plenty of clan mates. It only takes 2-3 of you to log on once in a blue moon so pick a clan you're passionate about being the admin role guy and do that, then leave the other clans up to other players. :D

change my mind!

Rark
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Re: limiting council per player

Postby Rark » Thu May 23, 2019 9:39 am

Whats the argument for limiting councils again? They don't hold any additional power, so its not like if x player wants to keep y player out, they have to be Council. Or if they want to propose a new policy or a new treaty they have to be Council. I think most human clans work as a majority democracy no? With no one wielding more power than others other than the usual "social power" of their name.

Lord Pe
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Re: limiting council per player

Postby Lord Pe » Thu May 23, 2019 3:52 pm

Rark wrote:Whats the argument for limiting councils again? They don't hold any additional power, so its not like if x player wants to keep y player out, they have to be Council. Or if they want to propose a new policy or a new treaty they have to be Council. I think most human clans work as a majority democracy no? With no one wielding more power than others other than the usual "social power" of their name.


Are you sure they don't hold any additional power? Outwardly it would seem like they don't. In my experience it seems like they do. Some Clans are worse than others.

Rark
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Re: limiting council per player

Postby Rark » Thu May 23, 2019 4:19 pm

Ah I can only speak to the clans I'm in(too many I'm afraid to admit) but they don't hold any additional power with the exception of some of them regarding certain declan rules, ie a vote can be started with 2 council members starting the vote vs 3 non council players. But other than that in the clans I'm in they just function as the administrators and maybe the middlemen between the people upstairs if the clan has decided on a new retool or a change of clan equipment and so forth.

Can honestly say I've never experienced anyone expecting me to do x because they are Council. If they actually had any real power, then sure limiting them would probably be good, but seems to me limiting Council in an era where our numbers are super low and people might need to step in to fill the shoes of the Council so rankings and w/e can be done doesn't make much sense.

Aurelius
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Re: limiting council per player

Postby Aurelius » Thu May 23, 2019 5:38 pm

I've always personally seen council as a public servant, someone who does the admin stuff. In a lot of cases though council are the ones drafting up treaties and contacting other clans etc. They also tend to be the most active clan members and generally the ones pushing for changes. Even though they don't make the final call it would be nice if said players aren't council in clans who are direct opposition.

IE: Mayene/Tear, Illian/Tear, CoL/Tower

Gleeman/Lion Warden would be fine.

Kerryk
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Re: limiting council per player

Postby Kerryk » Fri May 24, 2019 10:05 pm

“I am the law!” Kerryk Medakan, Captain of the Golden Bee [Illian Companion Council]


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