Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

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aang
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Re: Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

Postby aang » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:28 pm

I'd second Bastige on the bash, it does feel a fair bit worse than a heron medium/long for bashing, even after it has had its weight upped, which seems silly it being the abs version of a heron, could just be anecdotal though, unsure if you can see any given weapons bash stat, if such a thing even exists, or if it is just tied to the weaponsclass as a whole.

Zarth
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Re: Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

Postby Zarth » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:41 pm

The bash stat for a weapon is:
((Weapon Weight * Player OB * 10)/150) + (Player PB/4)

The rest of bash calculation depends on level and bmi and opponent db, but the higher that above number is the better.

Malf is the best bashing weapon. KSword is second best.

The club bonus probably puts clubs over the top, but I'm not 100% sure. The best bashing club is a steel warhammer. Mauls are actually pretty poor bashing weapons.

Razhak
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Re: Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

Postby Razhak » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:32 am

Have to agree, unless they were changed tremendously, I could only ever stomach using a warmaul as a mounted abs master (+ mounted bonus + master bonus)

Rark
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Re: Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

Postby Rark » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:40 am

have to say I always felt I bashed way better with a maul than with malf, but thats all anecdotal I guess, malf never really felt that impressive bash wise. Also make malf a chain again!

Taziar
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Re: Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

Postby Taziar » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:54 am

Zarth wrote:The bash stat for a weapon is:
((Weapon Weight * Player OB * 10)/150) + (Player PB/4)

The rest of bash calculation depends on level and bmi and opponent db, but the higher that above number is the better.

Malf is the best bashing weapon. KSword is second best.

The club bonus probably puts clubs over the top, but I'm not 100% sure. The best bashing club is a steel warhammer. Mauls are actually pretty poor bashing weapons.


How did you come up with that formula Zarth?

Lykan
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Re: Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

Postby Lykan » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:05 pm

Zarth wrote:The bash stat for a weapon is:
((Weapon Weight * Player OB * 10)/150) + (Player PB/4)

The rest of bash calculation depends on level and bmi and opponent db, but the higher that above number is the better.

Malf is the best bashing weapon. KSword is second best.

The club bonus probably puts clubs over the top, but I'm not 100% sure. The best bashing club is a steel warhammer. Mauls are actually pretty poor bashing weapons.


Naw, correct is:
(Weapon Weight/50) * (Player OB/3)) + (Player PB/4) - (Player PB*3/2)

You also forgot about clan bonus, which is substantial - same mod as mounted vs unmounted. Disappointing, Zarth.

ecthus
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Re: Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

Postby ecthus » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:13 pm

So outside of it's relation to OB, STR doesn't factor into bash?

Davor
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Re: Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

Postby Davor » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:38 am

All of that is irrelevant. Bash is based on BMI. If your BMI sucks then nothing else matters.

Ragyn
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Re: Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

Postby Ragyn » Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:50 pm

Really feels that way, I can't bash anything:(

Anjen
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Re: Feedback: 2h abs/bash weapons

Postby Anjen » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:08 pm

What is a good bmi?


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