attitudes and expectations

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Rhys
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Re: attitudes and expectations

Postby Rhys » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:22 pm

Jestin wrote:I don't really play much anymore but in the interests of hopefully contributing something:

These two mentalities do not need to be mutually exclusive. You can both be mindful of other people's fun and take it less personally when bad things happen to you. We all should be striving to do both, not just one or the other.

As others mentioned, killing people afk/ld is a great example of not being mindful of other people's fun. Honestly I don't think it's much fun for either side. It really is almost a lose/lose situation. You kill any potential pk, kill any future pk, piss someone off, waste time returning/not returning, waste time on forums arguing about things, etc. Just not a productive or fun use of anyone's time in any way.

At the same time, developing an attitude where you get angry and hurt that you were killed AFK/LD is also not constructive. This is a game you play for escape from the real world for fun and enjoyment, there is no need to let it get to you.

We really should try to do both and stop arguing about which one is better - both are good.



+1

ecthus
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Re: attitudes and expectations

Postby ecthus » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:26 pm

Kryyg wrote:Lykan has my forum password and the passwords of every gaidin. He no votes and yes votes as a block. It is known.

No I don't.

Atlan
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Re: attitudes and expectations

Postby Atlan » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:46 pm

ecthus wrote:
Kryyg wrote:Lykan has my forum password and the passwords of every gaidin. He no votes and yes votes as a block. It is known.

No I don't.


Right? I wouldn't do that, even if I did have them.

Drakmyr
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Re: attitudes and expectations

Postby Drakmyr » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:01 pm

too many NiceGuys on this mud who flip the fuck out when things don't go their way. for example: when i told kryyg i wouldn't let him blow me he shadow warranted my alt.

Gawaer
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Re: attitudes and expectations

Postby Gawaer » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:18 pm

Drakmyr wrote:too many NiceGuys on this mud who flip the fuck out when things don't go their way. for example: when i told kryyg i wouldn't let him blow me he shadow warranted my alt.


That's weird you wouldn't let him.

Astolfo
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Re: attitudes and expectations

Postby Astolfo » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:57 pm

Atlan wrote:
ecthus wrote:
Kryyg wrote:Lykan has my forum password and the passwords of every gaidin. He no votes and yes votes as a block. It is known.

No I don't.


Right? I wouldn't do that, even if I did have them.


I gave him mine and Davor's passwords. Pretty sure I emailed him Seaster's too.

Paj

Re: attitudes and expectations

Postby Paj » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:51 pm

Khahliana wrote:Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually play in a style specifically for the enjoyment of the rest of the players rather than themselves?


I play exclusively to see others enjoy the game. XP to make my char better able to help others. Gather gear to give to others. Get gear to be able to better get gear for others. Unfortunately my emotions get caught up in it because I know there are people on the other side of that character. I’ll fix that, thanks.

Talem
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Re: attitudes and expectations

Postby Talem » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:03 pm

I play for the enjoyment of others. I like helping. It's fun. And then people are happy and they like me back. And we all have a fun time and are happy.

I like playing weird RP characters. Test out a bow. Something. I like crackidy crack or whoever that posts random logs. I like obscure MC's wielding tridents and weaving whirlpool in the water. Unpredictability is fun.

isabel
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Re: attitudes and expectations

Postby isabel » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:52 am

I play to have fun but it's most definitely not fun for me if the other player isn't having fun too.

Reyne
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Re: attitudes and expectations

Postby Reyne » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:01 pm

Razhak wrote:Every human being is in essence selfish by nature. Even people who claim to be altruistic, derive some sort of enjoyment of their altruism (encouragement from other players, good standing amongst the group, etc etc) and I dare claim that it serves as enjoyment for them in that manner.

I play for me, and if others have fun while playing with me, thats a bonus. I try not to hurt others on purpose, but I also wont pull my punches against you if we are playing against eachother (neither will I expect the other side to do so).


People enjoy different things, though. If I die after a 1v1 back and forth with Bobo after an hour then I had some great PK and I don't particularly care. If I call in 5 people to smash Bobo in a minute then cool I won but... boring. Mind you I do like that people have to be a little on their toes when smobbing so obviously it is all subjective and a matter of context in each situation. *shrug*

Anyway I agree with Rig that everyone just gets shafted sometimes. Usually it is not malicious intent on anyone's part but just how the cookie crumbles. Human brains don't like that though and tend see a narrative where there isn't one - if you're on tilt it tends to be a negative one. In the middle of PK it's pretty easy to miss if someone went afk or LD, especially when on different sides and especially when stabbing. I'm definitely guilty of this too - getting on Discord all salty and seeing malicious intent after getting shafted instead of just walking away and cooling down.

I also agree with Naomi that you take on a certain level of risk when you continue PKing with a spotty connection. I PK from work sometimes and it can be a bit laggy but I'm not expecting people to back off when the lag spikes and my buffer freezes for half a minute (functionally the same as being linkdead imo).

isabel wrote:I play to have fun but it's most definitely not fun for me if the other player isn't having fun too.


Yeah I mean "I play for me" can easily just be an argument for griefing (not that I think that is what is happening here necessarily). Well look yeah it can be fun (hello EVE Online) but maybe do it on an MMO with thousands of players and not a MUD with dozens. There is at least *some* merit to the notion that we are collectively responsible for fostering some kind of "honorable" environment.

e: And I don't think that's "today's society wanting things handed to them" so much as people saying you shouldn't be allowed to do whatever you want in the sandbox just because you want to.

ee: I can't comment about other clans but we should be keeping up character separation, even if it is known who owns which alt, no? I should be allowed to play an unsavory type character and not have it affect the reputation of my more upstanding ones. I only mention this because a couple Accepted have asked me if it is okay that they have DS remorts and... yeah. I'd hope the answer would be 'of course it is' but obviously not if they feel the need to ask. It has nothing to do with your Accepted or her RP.


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