Chasing triggers..

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Sarryn
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Re: Chasing triggers..

Postby Sarryn » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:43 pm

I don't see it honestly myself. I do the mindless guessing all the time. It either works great. Or it let's them get away lol. But my link is utter shit compared to my better days. Link is a good part of the battle. When I had a 50-80 ping link oh boy. Was a little slice of heaven. So dlining and guessing are just mandatory. Your dlines etc were not correct. Anyone with a good link would of did well.

Taziar
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Re: Chasing triggers..

Postby Taziar » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:43 am

So you guys are suggesting to make triggers illegal? Even if Arkaza used a chase script (which from the log posted looks extremely unlikely) this does not violate the "botting" rules because they are at the keyboard. Matter of fact, without a dedicated client that has a verification application you cannot dictate what kind of client someone connects to the mud with... so even if you did manage to get a rule applied to the fact there wouldn't anyway to stop triggers or enforce it... even if there were 10 immortals working in shifts it would be untenable to verify with any certainty. Then what, even if... ban 50+% of the player base that wouldn't stop using them? I sure as hell wouldn't play this game without my scripts...

There is a lot more "open source" access to various scripts and scripting resources in the last few years, I have been making it my WoTMUD goal since 2015 to help provide access to EVERY player so that it evens the playing field. If you want to combat scripting I suggest learning more about it and the weaknesses incorporated in certain styles, you can employ other tactics like Rig suggests as well.

If anyone wants script help hit me up.

Taziar

(still think this is just a silly PDW) :P

arkaza
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Re: Chasing triggers..

Postby arkaza » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:25 pm

The Tar Valon Road
[ obvious exits: N S ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
*Arkaza* is standing here, riding a black stallion.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > se

*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Healthy > You try to pierce *Arkaza*, but he deflects the blow.
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
Ok.

f* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Healthy >
PANIC! You couldn't escape!

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Healthy > n

*Rodger* has arrived from the north, riding a gray palfrey.

f* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Healthy >
*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you deflect the blow.
No way! You're fighting for your life!

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Healthy >
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.

You panic and attempt to flee!ring - Arkaza: Healthy >


*Aishling* has arrived from the north, riding a Domani razor.


*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
*Aishling* tries to pound you, but you parry successfully.

s
s

You flee head over heels.
The Tar Valon Road
[ obvious exits: N S ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.

s* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring >
The Tar Valon Road
[ obvious exits: N S ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
*Aishling* is standing here, riding a Domani razor.
*Rodger* is standing here, riding a gray palfrey.
*Arkaza* is standing here, riding a black stallion. You come back in our room.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > no *Arkaza* leaves south riding a black stallion. I leave south before you
The Tar Valon Road
[ obvious exits: N S ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
*Arkaza* is standing here, riding a black stallion.

t* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring >
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.
No way! You're fighting for your life!

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Healthy > s
fYou stop paying increased attention to your surroundings.


* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Healthy > No way! You're fighting for your life!

You try to pierce *Arkaza*, but he parries successfully.
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
You panic and attempt to flee!


*Rodger* has arrived from the north, riding a gray palfrey.


*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you deflect the blow.
*Aishling* has arrived from the north, riding a Domani razor.


*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you parry successfully.
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
*Aishling* tries to pound you, but you parry successfully.

n
n
n
You flee head over heels.
Rounding the Bend
[ obvious exits: N W ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
The Tar Valon Road
[ obvious exits: N S ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
*Aishling* is standing here, riding a Domani razor.
*Rodger* is standing here, riding a gray palfrey.
*Arkaza* is standing here, riding a black stallion. You DL back into us.
*Aishling* tries to pound you, but you parry successfully.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Aishling: Hurt > *Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
No way! You're fighting for your life!

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Aishling: Hurt > No way! You're fighting for your life!

f
You panic and attempt to flee!ring - Aishling: Hurt >


*Arkaza* pierces your right leg extremely hard. I'm now guessing and spamming S KILL S KILL S KILL.


*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.


You dodge a bash from *Rodger* who loses his balance and falls!


You flee head over heels.
Rounding the Bend
[ obvious exits: N W ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > w Your west command right as I enter the room, ie too late.
*Arkaza* has arrived from the north, riding a black stallion.


* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > s

*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

s* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Healthy >
No way! You're fighting for your life!

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Healthy > fNo way! You're fighting for your life!


* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Healthy > You try to pierce *Arkaza*, but he deflects the blow.
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
You pierce *Arkaza*'s head very hard.
No way! You're fighting for your life!

You panic and attempt to flee!ring - Arkaza: Scratched >


*Aishling* has arrived from the north, riding a Domani razor.

w

*Aishling* tries to pound you, but you deflect the blow.

s

*Rodger* has arrived from the north, riding a gray palfrey.


*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you parry successfully.

You flee head over heels.
The Tar Valon Road
[ obvious exits: N S ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
Alas, you cannot go that way...

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > Rounding the Bend
[ obvious exits: N W ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
*Rodger* is standing here, riding a gray palfrey.
*Aishling* is standing here, riding a Domani razor.
*Arkaza* is standing here, riding a black stallion. You walk back in again.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring >
*Arkaza* leaves west riding a black stallion. I leave the room before you to fleetrap.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > f
Rounding the Bend
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
*Arkaza* is standing here, riding a black stallion. Already here.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring >
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Scratched > s
f
*Rodger* has arrived from the east, riding a gray palfrey.
No way! You're fighting for your life!

*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you deflect the blow. >
You panic and attempt to flee!


*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you deflect the blow.
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

s
s
*Arkaza* pierces your body extremely hard.



*Aishling* has arrived from the east, riding a Domani razor.

You flee head over heels.
Rounding the Bend
[ obvious exits: N W ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
Alas, you cannot go that way... ONE ALAS

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > Alas, you cannot go that way... TWO ALAS


* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring >
*Arkaza* has arrived from the west, riding a black stallion. I caught up.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > n
n
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.


* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Scratched > No way! You're fighting for your life!

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Scratched > f
No way! You're fighting for your life!

*Rodger* has arrived from the west, riding a gray palfrey.
You panic and attempt to flee!

n
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you deflect the blow.


n
*Aishling* has arrived from the west, riding a Domani razor.


n

You swiftly dodge *Aishling*'s attempt to pound you.


*Aishling* tries to pound you, but you deflect the blow.
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

You flee head over heels.
Rounding the Bend
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
Alas, you cannot go that way... ONE ALAS

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > *Arkaza* has arrived from the east, riding a black stallion.
Alas, you cannot go that way... TWO ALAS

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > *Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully. CAUGHT
No way! You're fighting for your life! Engaged. Next command irrelevent.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Scratched > s

You try to pierce *Arkaza*, but he parries successfully.
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Scratched > f
No way! You're fighting for your life!

You panic and attempt to flee!ring - Arkaza: Scratched > Finally getting some fleelag.


*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

s
*Rodger* has arrived from the east, riding a gray palfrey.


s
*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you deflect the blow.



*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

You flee head over heels.
Rounding the Bend
[ obvious exits: N W ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
*Aishling* is standing here, riding a Domani razor.
Alas, you cannot go that way... ALAS 1

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > Alas, you cannot go that way... ALAS 2

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring >
*Arkaza* has arrived from the west, riding a black stallion.
*Aishling* leaves west riding a Domani razor.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > f

*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

You panic and attempt to flee!ring - Arkaza: Scratched >

n
n

*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.


*Rodger* has arrived from the west, riding a gray palfrey.


*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you parry successfully.

You flee head over heels.
Rounding the Bend
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
*Aishling* is standing here, riding a Domani razor. Aishling in room already
Alas, you cannot go that way... ALAS
*Aishling* tries to pound you, but you parry successfully. ENGAGED

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Aishling: Hurt > *Arkaza* has arrived from the east, riding a black stallion.
No way! You're fighting for your life!

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Aishling: Hurt >
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Aishling: Hurt > f

*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
You pierce *Aishling*'s body.
*Aishling* tries to pound you, but you deflect the blow.

You panic and attempt to flee!ring - Aishling: Hurt >

n
n

*Rodger* has arrived from the east, riding a gray palfrey.


*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.
*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you parry successfully.


*Arkaza* pierces your right arm very hard.
You dodge a bash from *Aishling* who loses her balance and falls!

You flee head over heels.
The Tar Valon Road
[ obvious exits: N S ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
Rounding the Bend
[ obvious exits: E S ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
*Rodger* is standing here, riding a gray palfrey.
*Arkaza* is standing here, riding a black stallion. DL back into us
*Aishling* is sitting here, riding a Domani razor.

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring > *Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
No way! You're fighting for your life!

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Scratched > f
PANIC! You couldn't escape!

* R HP:Wounded SP:Strong MV:Tiring - Arkaza: Scratched > f
*Arkaza* swiftly dodges your attempt to pierce him.
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.
Your heartbeat calms down more as you feel less panicked.
You panic and attempt to flee!


*Rodger* sends you sprawling with a powerful bash! One round bash due to autowimpy.


*Zoot* has arrived from the east, riding a warhorse.
*Aishling* clambers to her feet.


*Aishling* pounds your body into bloody fragments!


*Arkaza* pierces your right arm into bloody fragments!


*Aishling* pounds your body into bloody fragments!
*Rodger* slashes your left leg into bloody fragments!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!

*Arkaza* pierces your body into bloody fragments!
You wish that your wounds would stop BLEEDING so much!



You flee head over heels.
Rounding the Bend
[ obvious exits: N W ]
A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.

* R HP:Critical SP:Strong MV:Strong >
*Arkaza* has arrived from the west, riding a black stallion.

* R HP:Critical SP:Strong MV:Strong > n NORTH 1 entered
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you parry successfully.

Still sitting from autowimpy flee.

* R HP:Critical SP:Strong MV:Strong - Arkaza: Scratched > n NORTH 2 entered
f FLEE entered
No way! You're fighting for your life! NORTH 1 goes through late because of AUTOWIMPY bash-flee.

* R HP:Critical SP:Strong MV:Strong - Arkaza: Scratched > You try to pierce *Arkaza*, but he dodges the attack.
*Arkaza* tries to pierce you, but you deflect the blow.
*Rodger* has arrived from the west, riding a gray palfrey.
No way! You're fighting for your life! NORTH 2 goes through.

*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you deflect the blow.d >
You panic and attempt to flee! Start Flee.

n

*Zoot* has arrived from the west, riding a warhorse.

n
*Rodger* tries to slash you, but you deflect the blow.
*someone* pierces your left leg into bloody fragments!
You are dead! Sorry...
You feel the Weave of the Wheel loosen from you.
You feel a sense of shame at your loss.

Rig
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Re: Chasing triggers..

Postby Rig » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:41 pm

fake news

arkaza
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Re: Chasing triggers..

Postby arkaza » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:36 pm

Make Arkaza Great Again!

Jestin
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Re: Chasing triggers..

Postby Jestin » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:52 pm

So I probably jumped to conclusions here. I apologize for the accusations!

Vaen
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Re: Chasing triggers..

Postby Vaen » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:34 pm

Yeah, last person to defend Arkaza, but it's usually a little more obvious than this when someone is using a chasing script and it's usually only *that* obvious when that person is leading a group. Case in point is Hress and all his alts.

Biggest tell is *usually* this over and over:

You flee head over heels!
*Hress* has arrived from the south.
*Hress* tries to hit you.
*Follower* tries to hit you.
*Follower 2* tries to hit you.

Over and over again. There are a fair amount of people that can chase really fast room to room and that comes down to reaction time and link. There's almost nobody with any link good enough to consistently chase you room to room *and* beat their group (whose sole job is to spam) every time and never have an issue with "max engage overchase" for a room or two if they're going that fast. Even if the followers have mediocre links or are just being lazy, it's just not plausible on a consistent basis.

edit: whoops, didn't see a whole page of responses.

Rig
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Re: Chasing triggers..

Postby Rig » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:01 pm

Who is Vaen

Mhaliah
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Re: Chasing triggers..

Postby Mhaliah » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:54 am

Nice breakdown Arkaza. It made me feel like when I am watching a football commentator break down a play.. only better! And I learned something from it.

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Re: Chasing triggers..

Postby Alison » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:01 pm

Honestly think that if you know a person is using a script that follows you. Then figure out a way to bypass it.

Few years ago i had a 'The day has begun' trigger.

Melayna figured it out and kept using it against me in our pk. I soon learnt to disable that perticular script.

Do something like Jestin flees south or something like that then dline north.

You basically going to control his char if he doesnt want to control it himself. You see him come in #echo Jestin moves west or something like that. bham xx person runs west .. You chase him and hit him.


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