Searching for Weapons of War and a discussion of value

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Spyder
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Re: Searching for Weapons of War and a discussion of value

Postby Spyder » Sun May 20, 2018 10:23 pm

Octavio wrote:I mentioned in game yesterday we should come up with a value for one item that we agree on. Then use the stats of that item as a comparision for pricing against other items. Finally add in a multiplier for rare and unique items to come up with a basis for pricing. Note I said pricing, not worth. Worth is the haggle part of the negotiation :p


Problem is value isn't static for any item.

Octavio
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Re: Searching for Weapons of War and a discussion of value

Postby Octavio » Mon May 21, 2018 6:53 am

Value should be based on something. In my example you are using a value based on stats of the item, plus multiplers. As the stats change the value of the item changes. Easy to tell someone I want the calculated amount plus a bonus for it.

Spyder
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Re: Searching for Weapons of War and a discussion of value

Postby Spyder » Mon May 21, 2018 7:25 pm

Value is based on what it is worth to the individual.... db does not equal x value for example.

aang
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Re: Searching for Weapons of War and a discussion of value

Postby aang » Tue May 22, 2018 6:18 am

Doubt you'll be able to come up with something. Best example is the auctions that Elysia did, the first auction a heron long went for 15? or maybe 25k gold, the next auction someone bought it for twice that much. On the forum auction those homeland change chits and reroll chits ended up going for 200-300k gold. I personally would never buy a bone club for 250-350 gc, since I hardly ever have gold enough for more than a reset or a level two ward on any given character and they generally load on easy to hit smobs. It is all relative to the player as Vilac pointed out, some people find it easy to farm gold and others easy to farm equipment, either through smobbing or pk.

Zhai
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Re: Searching for Weapons of War and a discussion of value

Postby Zhai » Tue May 22, 2018 7:46 am

Or some people just abuse bugs to farm gold and profit in these scenarios. How on earth can you possibly get 200-300k gold without abusing bugs?

Most people legit farming would stop at a few rents full of packs filled with gold but that is some next level stuff. I guess they find a loophole and feel like they need to farm a life time of gold before it disappears. I know once I max out a bank (not even a rent) I just move some of that gold to another character but do you really think someone has 100 characters to store that much gold?

That would be a massive red flag for me if I was the staff administrating the auction.

WoTMUD needs to get some counter terrorism and anti-money laundering regulations in place to stop this kind of dark net activity. We need to start collecting people's ID at inns and tracking how much gold is in those rent storage packs. Limiting physical transactions to 10000 copper pennies and implementing mandatory reporting for those above this threshold by our banks.

Just look at what people are buying with this money. If you can buy a homeland you can buy anything.

jasmin
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Re: Searching for Weapons of War and a discussion of value

Postby jasmin » Wed May 23, 2018 1:54 am

Yeah that stuff kinda cray cray - I mean it is possible to rack up that kind of cash for those good at farming but ugh.

Its probably worth saying on here officially that I have a dbelt for trade

Taziar
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Re: Searching for Weapons of War and a discussion of value

Postby Taziar » Wed May 23, 2018 3:38 am

Here is the current gold crowns sale prices from the Lugard Market Hall:

A projectiles broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 20 gold crowns.'
A projectiles broker says 'A throwing KNIFE, a copper head throwing AXE, a long barbed JAVELIN or a throwing SPIKE.'

A shortblades broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 150 gold crowns.'
A shortblades broker says 'A blackened steel KRIS,a dagger of green JADE, a CURVED clear dagger, a RED stone dagger, a pair of steel SAI, a silver winged BASILARD.'

A weapons broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 150 gold crowns.'
A weapons broker says 'An ENORMOUS battle axe, a dark GRIM axe, a BRONZE axe, a SAW toothed axe, a TITANIC axe,'
A weapons broker says 'a double headed WARHAMMER, a BONE club, a s'redit PROD, a metal banded CUDGEL or a silver banded MALLET.'

A longblades broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 150 gold crowns.'
A longblades broker says 'A CLAYMORE, an oddly CURVED longsword, an IVORY and gold hilted longsword, a BRASS hilted longsword, a wickedly SCYTHED longsword,'
A longblades broker says 'a JAGGED edged warsword, a PALE steel longsword, a gargantuan GILDED bastard sword, a COLOSSAL longsword or a SCIMITAR with a hilt of twisted iron.'

A sword broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 150 gold crowns.'
A sword broker says 'A BONE handled blade, an AMBER hilted iron sword, a silver PLATED sword, a RING quillioned sword, a razored FALCATA, a blue steel SCIMITAR,'
A sword broker says 'a pearl handled SABRE, a ruby worked RAPIER, an opal adorned TULWAR or an emerald FOIL.'

A weapons broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 150 gold crowns.'
A weapons broker says 'A blue TASSELED spear, a MAHOGANY spear, a GOLD chased warspear, a YEW staff, a SUNGWOOD staff, a BLADED feather staff,'
A weapons broker says 'a PINE javelin, a long HALBERD, a BLUE steel trident or a BARBED trident.'

A flails broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 150 gold crowns.'
A flails broker says 'A two-handed BINNOL, a bronze chain SCOURGE, a dark BARBED flail, a FIREDROP handled bullwhip or a jewel handled QUIRT.'

An accessory broker says 'A GOWN of exquisite design for 1000 gold crowns.'
An accessory broker says 'A red ROBE, an earthen MANTLE or a black silver embroidered CAPE for 150 gold crowns.'
An accessory broker says 'A cuendillar BELT for 150 gold for 150 gold crowns.'
An accessory broker says 'A STUDDED leather belt for 50 gold crowns.'
An accessory broker says 'An ONYX inlaid shield or a silver ETCHED shield for 75 gold crowns.'
An accessory broker says 'A DULL black shield for 50 gold crowns.'

A handwear broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 40 gold crowns.'
A handwear broker says 'HEAVY metal gauntlets, FULL leather gauntlets, leather gauntlets covered with CHAINMAIL, MURGOZ' gauntlets,'
A handwear broker says 'dark GLOVES, BUCKSKIN gloves or EMERALD gloves.'

A footwear broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 40 gold crowns.'
A footwear broker says 'THICK metal boots, animal FUR boots, silver TOOLED boots, MURGOZ' boots,'
A footwear broker says 'LISSOME boots, well OILED leather boots or low-HEELED leather boots.'

A bodywear broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 125 gold crowns.'
A bodywear broker says 'A SHINING steel breastplate, a GOLD breastplate, a MURGOZ steel breastplate,'
A bodywear broker says 'or a finely TUNIC, a SUPPLE tunic of finely linked chain, an ORNATE shirt, a leather JERKIN,'
A bodywear broker says 'or a finely-tailored SHIRT or a BEARSKIN tunic.'

A headwear broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 40 gold crowns.'
A headwear broker says 'A full metal helmet with VISOR, RIMMED helmet, INSECTOID helmet, MURGOZ' great helm,'
A headwear broker says 'a camouflaged HOOD, a hood of FINELY spun cloth or a thick helmet of SUPPLE leather .'

A jewelry broker says 'A JEWELED wristcuff for 500 gold crowns.'
A jewelry broker says 'An OBSIDIAN pendant, a SHIMMERING chain of gold, a GOLD ring or a gold and IVY ring for 150 gold crowns.'
A jewelry broker says 'A GATOR bracer, a Kandori WRISTCUFF, a KANDORI necklace, a TORC of gleaming steel, an IVORY necklace or a SILVER ring for 50 gold crowns.'

An armwear broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 75 gold crowns.'
An armwear broker says 'Ebony VAMBRACES, GOLD vambraces, MURGOZ steel vambraces,'
An armwear broker says 'or riveted SLEEVES, TOOLED sleeves, DYED sleeves, CLOTH sleeves or FINELY-spun cloth sleeves.'

A legwear broker says 'I will trade for the following, at a price of 75 gold crowns.'
A legwear broker says 'Ebony GREAVES, a GOLD greaves, MURGOZ steel greaves,'
A legwear broker says 'or riveted LEGGINGS, TOOLED leggings, DYED leggings, loose CLOTH breeches or earthen BREECHES.'


Synthia
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Re: Searching for Weapons of War and a discussion of value

Postby Synthia » Wed May 23, 2018 9:06 am

For easier reading :

-=- Projectiles -=-

20 gold crowns :

A throwing knife
A copper head throwing axe
A long barbed javelin
A throwing spike

-=- Short blades -=-

150 gold crowns :

A blackened steel kris
A dagger of green jade
A curved clear dagger
A red stone dagger
A pair of steel sai
A silver winged basilard

-=- Axes / Clubs -=-

150 gold crowns :

An enormous battle axe
A dark grim axe
A bronze axe
A saw toothed axe
A titanic axe
A double headed warhammer
A bone club
A s'redit prod
A metal banded cudgel
A silver banded mallet

-=- Long blades -=-

150 gold crowns :

A claymore
An oddly curved longsword
An ivory and gold hilted longsword
A brass hilted longsword
A wicked scythed longsword
A jagged edged warsword
A pale steel longsword
A gargantuan gilded bastard sword
A colossal longsword
A scimitar with a hilt of twisted iron

-=- Medium blades / fencing blades -=-

150 gold crowns :

A bone handled blade
An amber hilted iron sword
A silver plated sword
A ring quillioned sword
A razored falcata
A blue steel scimitar
A pearl handled sabre
A ruby worked rapier
An opal adorned tulwar
An emerald foil

-=- Spears / Staves / Javelins / Polearms -=-

150 gold crowns :

A blue tasseled spear
A mahogany spear
A gold chased warspear
A yew staff
A Sungwood staff
A bladed feather staff
A pine javelin
A long halberd
A blue steel trident
A barbed trident

-=- Flails -=-

150 gold crowns :

A two-handed binnol
A bronze chain scourge
A dark barbed flail
A firedrop handled bullwhip
A jewel handled quirt


-=- Shields -=-

50 gold crowns :

A dull black shield

75 gold crowns :

An onyx inlaid shield
A silver etched shield


-=- Trinkets -=-

50 gold crowns :

A gator bracer
A kandori wristcuff
A kandori necklace
A torc of gleaming steel
An ivory necklace
A silver ring

50 gold crowns :

A studded leather belt

150 gold crowns :

A red robe
An earthen mantle
A black silver embroidered cape
A cuendillar belt

150 gold crowns :

An obsidian pendant
A shimmering chain of gold
A gold ring
A gold and ivy ring

500 gold crowns :

A jeweled wristcuff

1000 gold crowns :

A gown of exquisite design


-=- Head -=-

40 gold crowns :

A full metal helmet with visor
A rimmed helmet
An insectoid helmet
A Murgoz' great helm
A camouflaged hood
A hood of finely spun cloth
A thick helmet of supply leather

-=- Arms -=-

75 gold crowns :

Ebony vambraces
Gold vambraces
Murgoz steel vambraces
Riveted sleeves
Tooled sleeves
Dyed sleeves
Cloth sleeves
Finely-spun cloth sleeves

-=- Chest -=-

125 gold crowns :

A shining steel breastplate
A gold breastplate
A Murgoz steel breastplate
A finely crafted tunic
A supple tunic of finely linked chain
An ornate shirt
A leather jerkin
A finely-tailored shirt
A bearskin tunic

-=- Hands -=-

40 gold crowns :

Heavy metal gauntlets
Full leather gauntlets
Leather gauntlets covered with chainmail
Murgoz' gauntlets
Dark gloves
Buckskin gloves
Emerald gloves

-=- Legs -=-

75 gold crowns :

Ebony greaves
Gold greaves
Murgoz steel greaves
Riveted leggings
Tooled leggings
Dyed leggings
Loose cloth breeches
Earthen breeches

-=- Feet -=-

40 gold crowns :

Thick metal boots
Animal fur boots
Silver tooled boots
Murgoz' boots
Lissome boots
Oiled leather boots
Low-heeled leather boots

*Edited to add armor pieces and separations.
Last edited by Synthia on Wed May 23, 2018 2:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Magdan
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Re: Searching for Weapons of War and a discussion of value

Postby Magdan » Wed May 23, 2018 9:33 am

So can you buy these items there for the price or just sell?

raal
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Re: Searching for Weapons of War and a discussion of value

Postby raal » Wed May 23, 2018 9:38 am

Can buy or sell but only if other players sell...

So don’t think you’ll find a jcuff, egown or onyx shield there - last jcuff I got sold for like 40k copper which is 2k gold and had several offers


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