Seeking advice on logistics of damane rp (log included)

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Jiera
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Seeking advice on logistics of damane rp (log included)

Postby Jiera » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:52 pm

While I'm happy with the log, I'm curious for advice on how to make each emote shorter (for less typing/reading) and also less confusing and also, perhaps more appealing to those who may like RP but are not...well as crazy as me about it? ;)

While both damane and sul'dam appies will need to rp their imaginary counterparts, I think for a damane it gets even more involved being that damane aren't allowed to speak/act unless told they can and sul'dam are the ones who do the most action/give orders/etc. But regardless it's interesting/unique rp either way. (And of course should one get accepted in the clan as a damane, I assume there will at times be opportunities to group with a sul'dam player and so neither player will need to rp imaginary counterparts.)

Now, if you're still with me, I'm asking for advice on how to shorten the emotes. For instance what about this?

em >> The Sul'dam drawls 'Blah.' (Showing in the mud as: Jiera >> The Sul'dam drawls 'Blah.')
vs Jiera stares at her feet while the Sul'dam drawls 'Blah.' (which gets long depending on how much the sul'dam has to say!)

Also for -posting- logs, I may very well edit more and do what Shanika did here as I think that was well done. http://www.wotmod.org/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=7139

Any suggestions are appreciated. Here's a sample log. As a note:
Jiera = damane but she is referred to as "Pookie" -- would it be easier if I just had her 'sul'dam' break from tradition and call Jiera by her given name?
Gyline = Jiera/"Pookies" Sul'dam. (Since damane generally can't move/talk/act without a sul'dam's permission unless they are in their kennel, hence why I need to rp an imaginary mob leading/commanding her.)
~~~
Waterfront Square
This small square is the heart of the waterfront in Falme. Business seems to be
proceeding as usual, yet everyone seems to be looking over their shoulder for
something. People walk briskly, occasionally nodding to one another by way of
greeting, but never stopping to talk. To the west are the main commercial
docks. Dock Road follows the waterfront north and south, and Water Street leads
into the business district to the east.

A banner has been erected displaying a map of the city.
[ obvious exits: N E S W ]
The waters of a blue-veined marble fountain pour forth here.
A stout wooden barrel stands nearby.
A marble bench, flecked with gold and bronze, adorns the floor.
With lovely brown eyes, a baby s'redit frolics here.
|1|.A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
The Falme town crier stands here, spreading the news.
A deathwatch ogier curls his lip in contempt.
A deathwatch ogier curls his lip in contempt.

Jiera listens as Gyline drawls 'Pookie, while it is my duty to train this animal, you will assist me as part of your own training.'

Jiera listens as Gyline drawls 'First, look at it.'

Jiera trembles slightly as she raises her gaze from the ground.

l s'redit
Standing as tall as a full grown warhorse, this baby s'redit looks out at
the world from soft brown eyes that seem to only hold innocence and joy.
Its thick gray hide is already as tough as moulded leather and covered with
a thin layer of dust to keep its skin from burning in the harsh sun. She
takes in the world through her trunk, which she uses to both smell and
touch everything in sight.

A baby s'redit is in excellent condition.

Jiera remains motionless while Gyline drawls 'Good, Pookie. You are allowed to look up from the ground because I said you could.'

Jiera keeps her gaze on the s'redit.

Jiera remains motionless while Gyline drawls 'This animal is young, innocent. I doubt it's known much pain for it to not run away from us.'

The western horizon glows in shades of red and violet as the sun sets.

Jiera remains motionless while Gyline continues 'Perhaps it will not need a heavy hand. Sometimes, such simple minded creatures do well with food as a motivator.'

The night has begun.

Jiera jumps as the Sul'dam grabs her hand and places it on the S'Redit's neck.

It is 9 o'clock pm, on the 1st day of the month of Maigdhal, year 1216.
According to legend and prophecy, this is the Zunth Turn of the Wheel.
The official forums are now at 'http://www.wotmod.org' enjoy!

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Jiera frowns as Gyline drawls 'But should it be required, force and pain will motivate it. You can learn from this S'Redit, Pookie, which is why I allow your presence.'

Jiera nods when Gyline drawls 'Now you must talk to it in a soft voice.'

Jiera coos softly to the S'Redit, her hand still held by the Sul'dam against its neck.

Jiera nods when Gyline drawls 'You can feel her pulse slow. She is responding to the gentle touch and soft voice.'

Jiera remains motionless while Gyline drawls 'I think I may let you take care of this...pet...for a time and know that its innocent life depends on your obedience.'

Jiera breaths in sharply at the implication and threat.

Jiera frowns as Gyline drawls 'Oh yes, my pet, I can sense your concern. Oh, yes. This will do nicely.'

Jiera remains motionless while Gyline drawls 'You haven't angered me in this exercise yet. Good girl, Pookie.'

Jiera frowns.

Jiera quickly smooths her features.

Jiera silently mouths, 'I am Jiera Dal'Morin, Accepted and Brown Ajah Apprentice.'

Jiera gasps as the Sul'dam tightens her grip on her hand causing the S'Redit to whine in pain, unable to break free.

Jiera cries out, 'No!', as the Sul'dam squeezes her hand on the S'redit's neck.

~~a bit later~~

Waterfront Square
This small square is the heart of the waterfront in Falme. Business seems to be
proceeding as usual, yet everyone seems to be looking over their shoulder for
something. People walk briskly, occasionally nodding to one another by way of
greeting, but never stopping to talk. To the west are the main commercial
docks. Dock Road follows the waterfront north and south, and Water Street leads
into the business district to the east.

A banner has been erected displaying a map of the city.
[ obvious exits: N E S W ]
The waters of a blue-veined marble fountain pour forth here.
A stout wooden barrel stands nearby.
A marble bench, flecked with gold and bronze, adorns the floor.
|1|.A gray palfrey prances skittishly nearby, being ridden by you.
With lovely brown eyes, a baby s'redit frolics here.
The Falme town crier stands here, spreading the news.
A deathwatch ogier curls his lip in contempt.
A deathwatch ogier curls his lip in contempt.

beckon s'redit

Jiera beckons a baby s'redit to follow her.

A baby s'redit touches you with its trunk and follows you.

A baby s'redit starts following Jiera.

It is 8 o'clock am, on the 2nd day of the month of Maigdhal, year 1216.
According to legend and prophecy, this is the Zunth Turn of the Wheel.
The official forums are now at 'http://www.wotmod.org' enjoy!

(Server: Mon Mar 19 23:34:55 2018 EST, up for 23 hours, 29 minutes)

Jiera frowns as Gyline drawls 'Ah how innocent indeed. It was caused great pain and didn't die and yet here it is willing to follow you again.'

Jiera nods when Gyline drawls 'I trust you've learned a lesson today, Pookie?'

Jiera says 'Yes, Mistress. I...will....obey.'

Jiera frowns when the Sul'dam pats her on the head saying, 'Good, pet.'

Jiera remains motionless while Gyline drawls 'It is late, but before you sleep, you will teach the S'redit a trick.'

Jiera says 'Yes, Mistress.'

dia s'redit
A baby s'redit has quite a few wounds.

Jiera frowns.

Jiera remains motionless while Gyline drawls 'Oh yes, my pet, you see it is still suffering and yet it still trusts us? One day you will obey and do whatever I ask without thought.'
Jioei has arrived from the east.

Jioei leaves south.

Jiera licks her lips.

Jiera schools her features.

Jiera jumps when the Sul'dam laughs, 'Oh Pookie. I can sense your feelings. It shall be a joy breaking you and making you a tool for the Empress, may she live forever.'

Jiera frowns.

Jiera yelps as Gyline snaps the leash and says 'Now to work, pet.'

Jiera stammers 'Ye-es Mi-stress.'

Jiera approaches the s'redit slowly once again and places her hand on it.

Jiera looks surprised as the s'redit doesn't back away, but accepts the touch.

Jiera thinks.

order s'redit sit
A baby s'redit has an indifferent look.

order s'redit sit
A baby s'redit has an indifferent look.

Jiera remains motionless while Gyline gives her some type of grass.

The western horizon glows in shades of red and violet as the sun sets.

The Fal Dara alarm horn sounds loudly.

Jiera holds the grass towards the S'redit who delightfully nibbles on some. After a few nibbles, Pookie pulls her hand up above its head.

The night has begun.

Jiera slowly, as the S'redit looks upwards, moves the grasses backwards until the S'redit sits down.

Jiera says 'Sit.'

Jiera being careful not to strain the leash then moves the grass away from the S'redit who happily stands in order to pursue the treat.

Jiera then once again, lifts the grasses above the S'redit's head and then towards it. The S'redit sits again.

Jiera says 'Sit.'

Elodie has arrived from the east, riding a |2|.warhorse.
A baby s'redit has arrived from the east.


Jiera Proceeds to do this 30 times.


Elodie is dragged along by the small sredit.

whois elodie
Elodie "Ellie", the damane is a human.
A short woman in her middle years is completely covered by a gray dress. The only ornamentation is the shiny silver collar around her neck with a chain connecting to another woman's wrist.

Jiera takes a quick look at the newcomer.

Jiera yelps as Gyline tugs the leash and drawls, 'Stick to the task at hand, Pookie!'

Jiera frowns and turns back towards the S'redit.

Jiera this time says 'sit' before moving the grass and waits.

Jiera sighs in relief when the S'redit sits, seemingly learned the new command.

Elodie cries softly into her dress until the sul'dam holding her leash slaps her casually 'Quiet Ellie'

Elodie curls into a ball on the ground.

Jiera remains motionless while Gyline drawls 'Good, Pookie. It's good that at least one pet obeys well even if it took you 30 tries.'

Jiera looks at the newcomer with sympathy.

Elodie quivers as a look of concentration appears on the Sul'dams face.

Jiera yelps as Gyline drawls 'I sense your feelings, Pookie. She will learn as you are learning.'

Jiera feels the flows of saidar coursing through her body.

Jiera scratches all over.

Jiera says 'Arg! It feels like....fireants!'

Elodie suddenly rolls around in agony, screaming loudly as she claws at the collar around her neck, " The pain will stop when Ellie behaves."

** This weave of the Wheel ends in 5 minutes...

It is 3 o'clock am, on the 3rd day of the month of Maigdhal, year 1216.
According to legend and prophecy, this is the Zunth Turn of the Wheel.
The official forums are now at 'http://www.wotmod.org' enjoy!

Jiera yelps as Gyline tugs the leash and drawls 'This concludes your lessons for today. You will wait quietly while I speak to the Sul'dam.'

Elodie goes limp on the ground breathing laboriously.

** This weave of the Wheel ends in 4 minutes...

Jiera squeezes her eyes shut as a few tears roll down her cheeks.

Jiera mouths, 'I'm so sorry.'

** This weave of the Wheel ends in 3 minutes...

Elodie cries out , " Ellie is sorry. Ellie will be a good damane. "

Dawn breaks, painting the sky with pink and amber hues.

Jiera yelps as Gyline quickly turns away dragging the leash and Pookie behind her.
~~~~~~~~~
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Drol
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Re: Seeking advice on logistics of damane rp (log included)

Postby Drol » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Damane roleplay will be a challenge.

But you could try -

emote looks to her Sul'dam for permission to respond.

emote smiles happily as (Sul'dam) acknowledges permission.

Roleplay on as normal with occasional checking for permission to speak/act.

Shanika
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Re: Seeking advice on logistics of damane rp (log included)

Postby Shanika » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:05 pm

Use the rpmobs, if you happen to be in a room where they are?

t rpmob semote Gyline wills Jiera to touch the s'redit, would show as Gyline wills Jiera to touch the s'redit. (Jiera)

Or at least, I think that's the syntax.

Drol
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Re: Seeking advice on logistics of damane rp (log included)

Postby Drol » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:06 pm

And in order to shorten emotes, I would probably just not emote your sul'dam speaking much. Just get permission to speak on your own behalf every so often in the roleplay - which your Sul'dam will give because you're a well-behaved Damane - and don't have the Sul'dam speak much at all.

Drol
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Re: Seeking advice on logistics of damane rp (log included)

Postby Drol » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:07 pm

Shanika wrote:Use the rpmobs, if you happen to be in a room where they are?

t rpmob semote Gyline wills Jiera to touch the s'redit, would show as Gyline wills Jiera to touch the s'redit. (Jiera)

Or at least, I think that's the syntax.


Also a good idea. Not sure which rooms have them. There's possibly one Falme Square. But there's unlikely to be any Seandar - maybe SCS?

Jiera
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Re: Seeking advice on logistics of damane rp (log included)

Postby Jiera » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:21 pm

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll continue to think about it and also try a few different things.

And I LOVE the rp mob. Used to use them a lot in the Tower...I think it was tell semote blah? (If not, I can look it up in a log later)

I almost spit out my food at the thought of Jiera being a well-behaved damane (at least at this point in time). Granted I'm party to her inner thoughts, motivations, and internal struggles. ;)

It shall be interesting once a few damane are alone in their kennel to talk. :D It will be a whole other layer of rp that sul'dam won't get to play.

Malvonia
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Re: Seeking advice on logistics of damane rp (log included)

Postby Malvonia » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:39 am

I think there is one in SCS however I cannot get it to return anything to me. Here are the three examples I tried. I am 100% positive I have no idea how this is supposed to work :p


* HP:Healthy SP:Bursting MV:Fresh > t rpmob emote say Good morning Malvonia. How is Jelnea acting today?
You tell Argle the RPMobol 'emote say Good morning Malvonia. How is Jelnea acting today? '

* HP:Healthy SP:Bursting MV:Fresh >
A well-traveled merchant leaves north.

* HP:Healthy SP:Bursting MV:Fresh > t rpmob emote wave your hands
You tell Argle the RPMobol 'emote wave your hands'

* HP:Healthy SP:Bursting MV:Tiring > tell rpmob semote A cat walks in and hisses
You tell Argle the RPMobol 'semote A cat walks in and hisses'

Jiera
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Re: Seeking advice on logistics of damane rp (log included)

Postby Jiera » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:41 pm

tell rpmob semote blah blah blah

For rpers, it's useful to set it as an alias. :) Well leaving out the blah blah blah part. ;)

isabel
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Re: Seeking advice on logistics of damane rp (log included)

Postby isabel » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:45 am

I apologise for posting this without reading the entire thing - in a hurry so just briefly - for ideas about roleplaying damane, do look up the literature on (consensual!) domination and submission - there is a lot of creative, interesting stuff out there (and doesn't have to be sexual). RJ picked it off that and imo was aware of the nuances of this stuff and hence had damane who WANTED to be damane. In many D/s scenarios it's actually the submissive (the damane) who has the power - it would be SO interesting to roleplay that - showing how it's the damane who has the power even though to everyone else it looks like the sul'dam does.

Anyway fun stuff and I wish I had time to write this stuff - so interesting from a human interaction perspective. Will read your log sometime for sure. Thanks for posting!

Akarus
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Re: Seeking advice on logistics of damane rp (log included)

Postby Akarus » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:08 pm

Really putting the emphasis on consensual and platonic domination eh?


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