New Rerols

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Treach
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Re: New Rerols

Post by Treach » Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:13 am

Razhak wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:44 am
I am quite glad I Always went for playable stats and not for stat sum increase..
Glad of what? Even the very average stats that people have posted in this thread have had terrible rerolls...

Edit: Actually I get what you mean. You picked playable while you had the rerolls, rather than higher statsum and waiting for next rerolls.

Kryyg
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Re: New Rerols

Post by Kryyg » Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:49 pm

Problem with this is all current players already abused rerolls on their alts.

This new change only really affects newer or relatively newer players who are already at a disadvantage.

Stats should be the least important part of this game at this point in time and everyone should just be max stats for their respective class. Let game play, equipment, and other non-static things differentiate characters. This solves the statting issue and retaining new players. Just let them play.

Razhak
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Re: New Rerols

Post by Razhak » Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:36 am

Treach wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:13 am
Razhak wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:44 am
I am quite glad I Always went for playable stats and not for stat sum increase..
Glad of what? Even the very average stats that people have posted in this thread have had terrible rerolls...

Edit: Actually I get what you mean. You picked playable while you had the rerolls, rather than higher statsum and waiting for next rerolls.
Exactly. I Always rather took the 19 xx xx 18 19, then some 16 18 18 19 16 to get some total statsum increase, in the hopes I would reroll even better next time...

Maegon
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Re: New Rerols

Post by Maegon » Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:16 pm

That's very chivalrous and all, but it doesn't address the current issue which gives completely bogus rolls. Even if the fix was done correctly, you still would have a chance to hit max statsum, so why wouldn't I do that on a storage alt or char that I rarely play anymore? I never took completely unplayable stats on my main chars, but certainly suffered bad hps from time to time.

Krygg hit the nail on the head, and I'm still convinced this is actually Itesh's ploy to implement a point based stat system where we go back to dung mentals, no pracs, and horrible fleelag. Otherwise, I don't see the reason to pull the ladder this late.

Elysia
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Re: New Rerols

Post by Elysia » Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:30 pm

Maegon wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:16 pm
Krygg hit the nail on the head, and I'm still convinced this is actually Itesh's ploy to implement a point based stat system where we go back to dung mentals, no pracs, and horrible fleelag. Otherwise, I don't see the reason to pull the ladder this late.
It would be nice if players left their tinfoil hats at home.

We all knew rerolls from people with a high statsum crashed the game. Flash looked into that. This is the result.

We have not looked into any changes to stats, statting, rerolls or homelands, as we feel there are other priorities. It's one of those things we may eventually get to, but at a later stage.

Maegon
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Re: New Rerols

Post by Maegon » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:01 pm

Oh, that was said in jest. I don't think these changes were actually intended to break rerolls or condition us for changes. Guess I should have added the ole haha after that statement.

Kitiara
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Re: New Rerols

Post by Kitiara » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:09 pm

Probably my only alt from back when I thought I could have an MC before i had even clanned a character haha, so innocent...

These are the age 300 rerolls, guess i could do age 400 too, but might save them for another random check one day.




You have 272(272) hit and 109(132) movement points.
You have scored 17926434 experience points and 0 quest points.
You need 3073566 exp to reach the next level.
You have played 3 days and 22 hours (real time).
This ranks you as xxx (Level 31).

You are a 415 year old male human channeler.
Your height is 5 feet, 5 inches, and you weigh 151.0 lbs.
You are carrying 0.0 lbs and wearing 73.3 lbs, fairly light.
Your base abilities are: Str:14 Int:17 Wil:19 Dex:17 Con:14, Sum: 81.
Offensive bonus: 111, Dodging bonus: 58, Parrying bonus: 89
Your mood is: Wimpy. You will flee below: 272 Hit Points
Your armor absorbs about 66% on average.

You are subjected to the following effects:

* HP:Healthy SP:Bursting MV:Strong > reroll
WARNING: Now that this procedure is started is must be completed before you
disconnect, rent or quit. If you do not take advantage of this opportunity at
this time, you will lose the chance until your next 100th birthday.

Below will be displayed 20 rerolls, if you choose to take one of available
rerolls, you will need to type this command again followed by your numbered
selection (example: reroll 9). If you choose to decline, you may either type
'reroll decline', simply rent or quit. You may redisplay the available rerolls
by typing 'reroll display' at any time before you rent or quit.

# 1 - Str[14] Int[19] Wil[18] Dex[17] Con[12] Hps[234] Move[124]
# 2 - Str[13] Int[18] Wil[19] Dex[16] Con[14] Hps[270] Move[126]
# 3 - Str[11] Int[19] Wil[19] Dex[16] Con[11] Hps[199] Move[124]
# 4 - Not good enough...
# 5 - Str[10] Int[17] Wil[17] Dex[15] Con[14] Hps[259] Move[118]
# 6 - Not good enough...
# 7 - Str[11] Int[18] Wil[17] Dex[17] Con[14] Hps[267] Move[124]
# 8 - Not good enough...
# 9 - Str[14] Int[17] Wil[17] Dex[18] Con[13] Hps[241] Move[126]
#10 - Str[14] Int[17] Wil[19] Dex[14] Con[15] Hps[297] Move[129]
#11 - Str[13] Int[19] Wil[17] Dex[16] Con[15] Hps[295] Move[128]
#12 - Str[11] Int[19] Wil[17] Dex[14] Con[11] Hps[212] Move[120]
#13 - Not good enough...
#14 - Str[14] Int[17] Wil[19] Dex[18] Con[11] Hps[194] Move[126]
#15 - Str[11] Int[19] Wil[19] Dex[14] Con[14] Hps[263] Move[124]
#16 - Not good enough...
#17 - Str[15] Int[17] Wil[19] Dex[14] Con[15] Hps[298] Move[130]
#18 - Str[15] Int[17] Wil[19] Dex[14] Con[14] Hps[275] Move[125]
#19 - Str[14] Int[17] Wil[19] Dex[17] Con[12] Hps[216] Move[123]
#20 - Str[11] Int[19] Wil[18] Dex[15] Con[11] Hps[204] Move[120]

Asandra
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Re: New Rerols

Post by Asandra » Fri May 01, 2020 1:48 am

Rough! And that for a not-at-all-supperstatted char!

Ominas
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Re: New Rerols

Post by Ominas » Fri May 01, 2020 8:48 am

Yeah I agree with Maegon and Kryyg

Asandra
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Re: New Rerols

Post by Asandra » Fri May 01, 2020 4:59 pm

Kryyg wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:49 pm
Problem with this is all current players already abused rerolls on their alts.

This new change only really affects newer or relatively newer players who are already at a disadvantage.

Stats should be the least important part of this game at this point in time and everyone should just be max stats for their respective class. Let game play, equipment, and other non-static things differentiate characters. This solves the statting issue and retaining new players. Just let them play.
Absolutely.

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